Cassava Enterprises, Virtual Holdings - Casino-on-net

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Casino-on-net.com, 888.com
Virtual Holdings Ltd., Cassava Enterprises Ltd.

Also includes reefclubcasino.com which was launched last year (July 2002) but Casino On Net has been around a long time.

Licensed: Gibraltar since 2003 (formerly Antiguan License).

There is a real possibility of this group being dumped due to the actions of one of the casinos. When Reef Club Casino launched last year, it made some terrible mistakes.

See this thread for more details: http://mb.winneronline.com/showthread.html?t=5673

Although the two casinos may be under different management, they are probably under the same license.

This is possibly the largest casino group online. They advertise everywhere.

more info to come

[FairCasinos]

I'm just trying to post a player's game log here (might take a while)! He had a bit of bad luck at Reef Club. Five blackjacks for the dealer in a row and a very bad run of cards a few hours later!

Read more about it at Casinomeister's here

It is not proof of cheating but a guy who created a robot for the casino at casinorobots.com also reported strange losing sessions after playing for a while with the robot and told me he made his robot continually exit out of the game to stop the 'cheating'. I don't recommend the robot software because he made strange claims to me about it. He seemed to think he could beat the casino with his software which made me wonder about him.

I dumped this group last year due to the Reef Club incident when they opened. See the WinnerOnline link in the first post for more details.

[FairCasinos]

Below is is the game log of the player who had the bad luck at Reef Club. He had some trouble receiving the full details but it was finally sent to him after complaining to Ecogra.

Assuming the game was fair, the odds of five consecutive blackjacks happening for the dealer is 4.1 million to one (the odds of a blackjack with the four deck game at Reef Club should be 4.756%)! This seems dodgy but considering the thousands of hands a gambler plays in a lifetime, it isn't extremely unlikely to happen at some point in his career. Since it is so unlikely to happen more than once unless you've played millions of hands, a good approximation of the true odds of it happening to you is to divide the number of hands you've played into the 4.1 million. After just 1000 hands the odds of it happening at some point is around 1 in 4100.

Just a few hours later, another bad run occurred which was calculated by the player to be around 3.91 standard deviations below average (this can be verified by the logs but I haven't done this) and a session as bad as that or worse only occurs one time in 21,661 attempts in a fair game. The bad luck session consisted of only 90 hands or so and he must have played many hundreds of session subsets of this length in the past but it would still happen only a few times on average over a player's lifetime over that many hands. It could be down to some very bad luck, but coming so soon after the extremely rare consecutive blackjacks event is a bit worrying.

serverid	roundid	player cards	dealer cards	profit (cents) ,	bet (cents) ,	date	RoundID
	Five Blackjacks in a row:
2001	22578433	2C, 3C,	AD, JH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 4:27 AM	226
2001	22578437	8H, JD,	AH, TH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 4:28 AM	227
2001	22578445	JC, 2C,	AC, TH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 4:28 AM	228
2001	22578457	9S, 8H,	AD, JD,	-2000	2000	7/6/04 4:28 AM	229
2001	22578470	5S, QC,	AC, JC,	-2000	2000	7/6/04 4:28 AM	230
	Bad Streak:
2001	22588270	8H, 8D, 7D,	AS, 8C,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:43 AM	998
2001	22588279	QH, 8D,	9C, KS,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:43 AM	999
2001	22588286	3C, TS,	4H, 7H, JD,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:43 AM	1000
2001	22588295	3H, 8D, 6C,	6H, 6S, 7D,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:44 AM	1001
2001	22588308	9C, 7C, 2D,	9C, QC,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:44 AM	1002
2001	22588316	2S, 5H, 4H, TH,	KC, 4D, TC,	500	500	7/6/04 10:44 AM	1003
2001	22588326	8D, 3C, 3D,	8H, 9H,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:45 AM	1004
2001	22588335	3S, TH, KS,	7H, 4D,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:45 AM	1005
2001	22588345	3D, 4S, JS,	4S, JD, 5C,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:45 AM	1006
2001	22588355	JC, 9C,	JC, AC,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:45 AM	1007
2001	22588362	4D, JC, 2C, 5S,	AS, 9D,	500	500	7/6/04 10:46 AM	1008
2001	22588378	3H, JH, 8S,	QC, JC,	500	500	7/6/04 10:46 AM	1009
2001	22588384	6S, 2D, 9C,	JH, 6D, 7S,	500	500	7/6/04 10:46 AM	1010
2001	22588393	5H, 4S, 6D,	2H, 8D, 9D,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:46 AM	1011
2001	22588400	JD, 8S,	TH, AD,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:46 AM	1012
2001	22588407	4S, 6D, 7S,	5S, QH, 6C,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:47 AM	1013
2001	22588414	7D, KD,	KC, JS,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:47 AM	1014
2001	22588421	8D, JS,	2C, TD, QD,	500	500	7/6/04 10:47 AM	1015
2001	22588431	AS, 7H, AC,	3D, JS, 2H, AD, 5H,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:47 AM	1016
2001	22588440	2C, KC, QS,	KS, 5D,	-500	500	7/6/04 10:48 AM	1017
2001	22588452	AS, 4H, 7S, TH,	8C, TD,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:48 AM	1018
2001	22588461	KH, 2H, AD,	2D, 9H, TH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:48 AM	1019
2001	22588472	JH, 4D,	2H, JD, 9S,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:48 AM	1020
2001	22588481	4S, 7D, 5S, 4H,	KH, JD,	0	1000	7/6/04 10:49 AM	1021
2001	22588493	2D, QD, 9C,	JD, 4D, 7H,	0	1000	7/6/04 10:49 AM	1022
2001	22588501	QS, AD,	AH, QS,	0	1000	7/6/04 10:49 AM	1023
2001	22588512	4D, 6D, 5C,	3C, 3S, 5D, 9H,	-2000	2000	7/6/04 10:49 AM	1024
2001	22588520	5D, KD, 2C,	JD, 8H,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:50 AM	1025
2001	22588527	3D, 4C, JH,	TS, 8S,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:50 AM	1026
2001	22588534	AC, KC,	KH, KS,	1500	1000	7/6/04 10:50 AM	1027
2001	22588538	5C, AD, 7C, 4C,	AS, 2H, 3C, 5C,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:51 AM	1028
2001	22588547	3C, 7C, 4H,	7S, 5H, 5S,	-2000	2000	7/6/04 10:51 AM	1029
2001	22588555	4H, 5S, 6C, 2C,	9D, 2C, JH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:51 AM	1030
2001	22588563	5H, TD, 9D,	KH, 4H,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:51 AM	1031
2001	22588572	7H, 9S,	AH, JH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:52 AM	1032
2001	22588580	7S, TD,	6C, 7S, 7H,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:52 AM	1033
2001	22588587	7C, JD,	3D, 4S, QS,	0	1000	7/6/04 10:52 AM	1034
2001	22588596	TD, 6S,	5S, QH, 5C,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:52 AM	1035
2001	22588604	AD, JS, 2nd: AH, 6H,	5H, TS, 7C,	2000	2000	7/6/04 10:53 AM	1036
2001	22588611	QH, 2H, 9D,	8S, 6S, QH,	1000	1000	7/6/04 10:53 AM	1037
2001	22588619	JC, 3C, 3S, 6S,	QC, 7S,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:53 AM	1038
2001	22588627	3S, 9C,	JH, AD,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:53 AM	1039
2001	22588634	AC, 9D,	TS, 7D,	1000	1000	7/6/04 10:54 AM	1040
2001	22588640	TS, JS,	9S, 2C, 7S,	1000	1000	7/6/04 10:54 AM	1041
2001	22588646	4H, KH, JC,	QH, TH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:54 AM	1042
2001	22588654	4D, 8C,	3D, 4D, 9C, 2S,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:54 AM	1043
2001	22588663	4D, QD,	3H, 8D, AD, 9D,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:55 AM	1044
2001	22588668	4S, JH, 4S,	KS, 6D, 4C,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:55 AM	1045
2001	22588673	5S, 9D,	AD, QH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:55 AM	1046
2001	22588681	6C, 8D, QS,	JS, 5H,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:55 AM	1047
2001	22588686	4H, AS, 2S,	6D, 7D, KC,	2000	2000	7/6/04 10:56 AM	1048
2001	22588693	AS, 5C, TC, 6C,	7H, AS,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:56 AM	1049
2001	22588700	KC, AC,	6S, QD,	1500	1000	7/6/04 10:56 AM	1050
2001	22588704	7C, QS, 2nd: 7H, 8D,	4S, 4H, AH,	-2000	2000	7/6/04 10:56 AM	1051
2001	22588709	5H, TD, TH,	AH, 8C,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:57 AM	1052
2001	22588721	8C, 5D, 2nd: 8S, AS,	3S, 2H, TH, 8D,	2000	2000	7/6/04 10:57 AM	1053
2001	22588734	TH, 2D, AH, 2C, AS,	7S, JS,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:58 AM	1054
2001	22588747	5C, TS, AD, TH,	8S, JH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:58 AM	1055
2001	22588755	4C, AC, KS,	5H, 3C, QH,	-2000	2000	7/6/04 10:58 AM	1056
2001	22588761	QS, 4H, 8D,	JS, QD,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:58 AM	1057
2001	22588770	4H, 5D, JD,	KH, JD,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 10:59 AM	1058
2001	22588780	8S, AC,	3C, AS, TH, JS,	1000	1000	7/6/04 10:59 AM	1059
2001	22588789	9S, 2S, 8H,	2H, AH, QD, JC,	2000	2000	7/6/04 10:59 AM	1060
2001	22588796	QC, 6D,	2S, AS, 2D, JH, JS,	1000	1000	7/6/04 11:00 AM	1061
2001	22588803	8S, 2D, 6S,	5S, 9C, 6D,	-2000	2000	7/6/04 11:00 AM	1062
2001	22588809	4D, 6D, 2C, AH, QD,	QS, 8S,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:00 AM	1063
2001	22588814	8C, 6D, JD,	KS, 3D,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:00 AM	1064
2001	22588819	8D, 4D,	4S, 3D, 5C, 8C,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:01 AM	1065
2001	22588825	7C, 6S, 6H,	QD, KC,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:01 AM	1066
2001	22588830	9S, QC,	7H, QS,	1000	1000	7/6/04 11:01 AM	1067
2001	22588835	8S, 2S, 9C,	KD, 2D, TC,	1000	1000	7/6/04 11:01 AM	1068
2001	22588841	7H, QH, 2nd: 7S, 2D, 6S,	2C, 3D, KS, 4H,	-2000	2000	7/6/04 11:02 AM	1069
2001	22588847	9C, QS,	KC, KD,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:02 AM	1070
2001	22588854	3D, 2C, 2D, QC,	3D, QH, 3H, 6S,	1000	1000	7/6/04 11:02 AM	1071
2001	22588858	AH, 5D, TH, 7D,	8S, KC,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:03 AM	1072
2001	22588863	QS, 5D, JD,	KC, 2D,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:03 AM	1073
2001	22588874	AD, 3S, 8D,	6C, 9C, AC, 4C,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:03 AM	1074
2001	22588881	JS, 9H,	5S, 9S, 7D,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:03 AM	1075
2001	22588889	4S, QC,	6H, JD, AC,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:04 AM	1076
2001	22588894	8D, 7C,	2H, 6H, 2D, 9D,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:04 AM	1077
2001	22588902	2H, KS,	5H, TS, 9H,	1000	1000	7/6/04 11:04 AM	1078
2001	22588907	2H, AC, 3C, 5S,	QS, 3H, KC,	1000	1000	7/6/04 11:04 AM	1079
2001	22588915	3D, 3C, 6H, JD,	8S, AS,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:05 AM	1080
2001	22588923	2C, 9S, 3C, TD,	JD, TH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:05 AM	1081
2001	22588928	5S, KH, TD,	QH, 2H,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:05 AM	1082
2001	22588937	QH, 4S, 2C, 7D,	TH, 3D,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:06 AM	1083
2001	22588946	JC, 9D,	QC, JH,	-1000	1000	7/6/04 11:06 AM	1084

[Online Casino Reviewer]

Hmm. Cassava ( 888.com , casino on net ) etc may not operate the best casino software but one thing for sure is that they are reputable and their software is not fixed.

Otherwise they wouldn't have gained a gaming licence in Gibraltar for a start. In addition they are looking to float in a couple of years.
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The software is probably fair. The problem was with Reef Club Casino when they opened. When Reef club first opened, Casino on Net had a pop up about the new casino which invited players to sign up there, although I never played there. Reef Club then unfairly retroactively denied the sign up bonuses to some players after they'd already played and qualified for the bonus. The link about it is at the top of the thread.

[gonefishing]

www.888.com I seen this on a News website about the casino on March 12, 2005 don't know where its at but just want to find out if its true.I think it was CNN news but not sure.

[FairCasinos]

I haven't found anything about this but I can say that some people have been trying to search for this news as I've had recent search engine traffic after people searched for terms such as "casino on net sued".

Try asking the question at www.casinomeister.com/forums