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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 3:13 pm    Post subject: InterCasino - Cryptologic Reply with quote

Launched: 19th November 1996
Licensed: Antigua
Software: Wagerlogic/Cryptologic

InterCasino.com

Directory listing of this casino.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This casino ought to be in the BEST section - highly recommended along with all other Cryptologic casinos (they are currently supplementing my life style icon_rolleyes.gif )
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:01 pm    Post subject: CUSTOMER SERVICE Reply with quote

Have you ever tried emailing Crypto support? Most of the time they don't reply.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, if they were licensed in Isle of Man, they would be in the BEST section. That's the only way any casino can be in there at the moment even though the number of IoM licensed casinos seems to be diminishing close to zero after the closures this year since I started the site icon_redface.gif .
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: CUSTOMER SERVICE Reply with quote

FairCasinos wrote:
Have you ever tried emailing Crypto support? Most of the time they don't reply.


Fair comment althought the CS is via cryptologic and is not really in the hands of Intercasino.

I have seen instances of Ryan H posting on WOL to sort out problems and would therefore rate them above all the other Cryptologic casinos icon_lol.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont get this crypto stuff is it a seperate casino to intercasino?
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FairCasinos

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wagerlogic, a subsidiary of Cryptologic, is the software company for casinos with the ecashdirect money system. Most people just call them Cryptologic casinos. Intercasino was the first of their casinos and was reportedly owned by them and not licensed to anyone else like the others.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting post as I had suspicisions that Intercasino was owned by Wagerlogic - was there ever any proof of this?

Ben.
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markey111

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: intercasino's roulette random??????? Reply with quote

intercasino. I have never seen such a rigged roulette in my life. picture this....
my chips at the table $957 all numbers covered except 22, 25, 36 and 8, 11, 21, 24 half covered (split) with a total stake value of $53 per spin. In the space of 25 spins 36 came out 6 times (two doubles) 22 came out 5 times (two doubles) 25 came out 5 times and once each for 8, 21,24 most of which can be seen on a screen shot I took with my digi cam. (wish I could upload the screen shot. it has to be seen to be believed) Coincidence...

EDIT by FairCasinos: I removed the duplicate post. I disabled deleting and editing of posts on this board. You can always preview them first though before submitting.
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FairCasinos

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please send me the address for the screenshot or email the image to me (either PM me or email it to admin@faircasinos.com). I can put it up for you.
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markey111

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

just need to add my total bets on roulette were over $14000 from a deposit of $500 in total
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the pics you sent (reduced from 1600x1200):



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:30 pm    Post subject: game logs Reply with quote

Could you get the game logs from the log viewer in the software and send/post them? I'm not sure which software version you have but to get to the log viewer on mine, select 'more games' and the second option from the bottom is 'log viewer'. Double-click the session in the log viewer and you should get all the details of your bets and you are able to copy them to the clipboard.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone check out the More Winners link at the bottom of there web page.
Seeing as these winnings came in a 5 day spand with the winnings going up and down from day to day, but overall going up to $21,150.00 0n 07-17.
One would think this was from a single deposit and the player continued to win over a 6 day period.

Yet Intercasino advertise's as if the player won each of those amounts playing those games.

hiko22 2004-07-12 VIP European Roulette $5,925.00

hiko22 2004-07-14 Roulette $8,024.00

hiko22 2004-07-13 Multi-Player European Roulette $8,502.00

hiko22 2004-07-15 Multi-Player European Roulette $8,625.00

hiko22 2004-07-14 Roulette $8,988.00

hiko22 2004-07-17 Multi-Player European Roulette $10,575.00

hiko22 2004-07-14 Roulette $10,988.00

hiko22 2004-07-12 VIP European Roulette $11,850.00

hiko22 2004-07-16 Multi-Player European Roulette $15,432.00

hiko22 2004-07-14 Multi-Player European Roulette $15,660.00

hiko22 2004-07-17 VIP European Roulette $18,900.00

hiko22 2004-07-17 Single-Player European Roulette $21,150.00

The following is a quotation from Gambling Online Magazine - Yearbook edition November 2003.....


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"The Gambling Online Magazine “Top Casino 2003” award is the gaming industry’ s highest honor. Winning this award three years running proves that superlative quality come from within InterCasino’s management and customer service, and that it is their genuine commitment to constantly innovate and meet their customers’ needs, year after year.
After winning the Top Casino award in 2001, the company upgraded its award-winning software; after winning Top Casino in 2002, InterCasino updated its website. Bold moves after winning the industry’s highest honor, but decisions that have paid off and kept InterCasino at the top of the game.InterCasino is unquestionably a flagship in the fleet of online casinos and continues to gain the trust and esteem of players year after year."


It's one thing for the casinos to buy the votes from patrons, not much can be done about that.
But for the business that runs the vote (Gambling Online Magazine) to promote them, well that's another story. And that's exactly what it looks like a story!

Sorry you got ripped off markey ;o(

Vince
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FairCasinos

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have emailed markey111 because I haven't heard from him in a while about this and over at Casinomeister's they are asking for more details.
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FairCasinos

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main assertion about the uncovered numbers appearing 16 times in 25 spins is unlikely to the point of being impossible (many billions to one chance- =1/BINOMDIST(9,25,34/37,1) = 286363000000 > 286 billion).

If you go by what is seen on the screenshot, the uncovered numbers showed up 7 times out of 15. It is probably not true that in the other 10 spins either side of the time of the screenshots, that the uncovered numbers showed up 9 times out of 10 (to make 16 out of 25) so maybe what was stated before wasn't accurate.

The formula for this in Excel: =1/BINOMDIST(8,15,34/37,1) = 12120.82 so the odds are unlikely but not very unusual given the number of spins of roulette happening at this casino and something similar is sure to happen there quite regularly (probably about once per week). It is not something that a player should expect to happen, though.

markey111 at the moment is trying to get Intercasino to confirm the play logs so we know exactly what happened.
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FairCasinos

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What we know so far is that he wagered around $14000 altogether and started with a $500 deposit. I think this included other play but I will try and get Markey to confirm this.

He was betting $53 per spin and only played these numbers for the session in question of 40 to 50 spins approximately. I also think he started the session with $957. This is the information he has given me so far.

Markey, can you please confirm and clarify some of these points? This session would only have resulted in about $2500 worth of bets (around 40-50 spins of $53) so the $14000 you saw in the software log must have included other bets.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this as a copy of the reply(i have removed my personal information and account number) dont quite follow it icon_confused.gif
how do I get the logs to open just getting a 'page cannot be displayed ' message. do i need to have intercasino installed? dont know which log includes the spins in question











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From : <support@intercasino.com>
Sent : 27 July 2004 02:50:47
To :
Subject : Game logs request - Account No. **********

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Dear Mark,

Hello and thank you for contacting ECash Direct (UK) Ltd.


Please find below your gamelogs for this month.


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Time Started
(EST - EDT) Game Type #Of Bets Total Bets ($/£) Total
Winnings ($/£) Term.Code GameLog Session Type User ID
Jul 25 2004 8:23PM 34 8 2.0000 -0.7500 0 1090801392 2103831
Jul 25 2004 8:21PM 56 0 0.0000 0.0000 951 1090801290 2103831 D
Jul 25 2004 8:11PM 36 23 50.0000 -19.2000 0 1090800700 2103831 D
Jul 25 2004 9:48AM 56 7 14.0000 -14.0000 0 1090763322 2089908 D
Jul 21 2004 2:33AM 34 2 0.5000 -0.5000 0 1090391612 1997028 D
Jul 18 2004 12:35AM 55 25 86.0000 -50.0000 0 1090125310 1926514 D
Jul 18 2004 12:34AM 36 0 0.0000 0.0000 0 1090125276 1926514 D
Jul 18 2004 12:26AM 56 9 95.0000 -50.0000 0 1090124816 1926514 D
Jul 18 2004 12:20AM 56 7 50.0000 -50.0000 0 1090124435 1926514 D
Jul 18 2004 12:12AM 56 7 50.0000 -50.0000 0 1090123979 1926514 D
Jul 18 2004 12:07AM 56 6 50.0000 -50.0000 0 1090123633 1926514 D

Jul 17 2004 11:13PM 36 85 229.0000 -55.8000 0 1090120387 1926514 D

Jul 17 2004 11:01PM 36 0 0.0000 0.0000 951 1090119666 1926514 D
Jul 17 2004 11:01PM 56 12 138.0000 6.0000 0 1090119688 1926514 D
Jul 17 2004 10:09AM 56 54 418.0000 -22.0000 1008 1090073345 1908580 D
Jul 17 2004 9:50AM 36 46 117.5000 -22.2500 0 1090072242 1908580 D
Jul 17 2004 9:48AM 36 0 0.0000 0.0000 951 1090072091 1908580 D
Jul 17 2004 9:48AM 56 0 0.0000 0.0000 1008 1090072095 1908580 D
Jul 17 2004 9:48AM 36 0 0.0000 0.0000 951 1090072118 1908580 D
Jul 17 2004 9:48AM 56 2 6.0000 -6.0000 0 1090072120 1908580 D
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Jul 17 2004 7:09AM 56 259 11413.0000 -100.0000 1008 1090062579 1908580 D
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Jul 17 2004 7:03AM 56 13 136.0000 -100.0000 0 1090062215 1908580 D
Jul 17 2004 6:51AM 56 25 280.0000 -100.0000 0 1090061473 1908580 D
Jul 17 2004 6:19AM 56 77 482.0000 -50.0000 0 1090059543 1908580 D
Jul 17 2004 2:34AM 56 213 2848.0000 -301.0000 0 1090046054 1903919 D
Jul 17 2004 1:17AM 31 311 2300.0000 32.0000 0 1090041478 1903919 D
Jul 17 2004 12:31AM 31 0 0.0000 0.0000 0 1090038661 1903919 D
Jul 17 2004 12:31AM 4 333 1717.0000 -231.0000 0 1090038690 1903919 D
Jul 17 2004 12:02AM 56 31 464.0000 400.0000 0 1090036975 1901077 D
Jul 16 2004 10:30PM 36 236 713.5000 -199.2500 0 1090031406 1901077 D




We hope this attends to your enquiry. If we can be of any more assistance please feel free to contact us at anytime. We are open 24 hours per day, 7 days a week (including holidays). You can contact one of our friendly and courteous ECash Direct (UK) Ltd support staff (toll-free) at:

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Kind regards,
Ron
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is it possible for you to send me my play logs for the 16,17,18 th july 2004?
account number **********



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markey111

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:38 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

re installed and reactivated account still cannot view the logs...any ideas?????
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FairCasinos

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried formatting the logs below from the email you posted. I think if you click on the session you should see more details but you might need to have Excel installed. It is showing a few different games and I'm not sure which 'game type' is the roulette game in question.

Time Started(EST-EDT) Game Type # Of Bets Total Bets($/&) Total Winnings($/&) Term.Code Game Log Session Type User ID
Jul 25 2004 8:23PM 34 8 2 -0.75 0 1090801392 2103831 D
Jul 25 2004 8:21PM 56 0 0 0 951 1090801290 2103831 D
Jul 25 2004 8:11PM 36 23 50 -19.2 0 1090800700 2103831 D
Jul 25 2004 9:48AM 56 7 14 -14 0 1090763322 2089908 D
Jul 21 2004 2:33AM 34 2 0.5 -0.5 0 1090391612 1997028 D
Jul 18 2004 12:35AM 55 25 86 -50 0 1090125310 1926514 D
Jul 18 2004 12:34AM 36 0 0 0 0 1090125276 1926514 D
Jul 18 2004 12:26AM 56 9 95 -50 0 1090124816 1926514 D
Jul 18 2004 12:20AM 56 7 50 -50 0 1090124435 1926514 D
Jul 18 2004 12:12AM 56 7 50 -50 0 1090123979 1926514 D
Jul 18 2004 12:07AM 56 6 50 -50 0 1090123633 1926514 D
Jul 17 2004 11:13PM 36 85 229 -55.8 0